tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016863230532205673.post2631773804329944995..comments2023-12-10T07:07:56.884+00:00Comments on the swiss lounge: i'm dismayedswisshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17924594772578153947noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016863230532205673.post-36103716674246806112008-01-24T15:02:00.000+00:002008-01-24T15:02:00.000+00:00interestingly i'm just back from reading the bmj w...interestingly i'm just back from reading the bmj which suggests that suicide rate in dutch adolescents has risen 49% in the last five or so years. the bmj article suggests that attempts to link this with a reduction in prescription of ssri's are wildly speculative but even so, that's quite an increase<BR/><BR/>and while i agree with much of what both of you say i can't help feeling there's more at work. certainly among the young, there's a lifestyle issue, particularly amongst girls, which seems to see self harm almost as a rite of passage. and while disadvantaged home circumstances are undoubtedly a factor quite some number of our attenders come from well to do middle class homes. we call ths the idiot parent factor - some of the behaviours from all concerned have to be sen to be believed!<BR/><BR/>and while dealing with the young can be upsetting this client group is far from being composed solely of them, in fact our frequent flyers tend to be in the late 30s -50s age range.<BR/><BR/>my gut instinct is to disagree that it's not possible to associate with others. however it seems that there's a barrage of social factors that entrench individualist, self centred, selfish attitudes and predicate against it. i've worked wih some east germans recently and it'svery interesting to compare and contrast their upbringing with the likes of mine!swisshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17924594772578153947noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016863230532205673.post-77545832583204536882008-01-23T10:58:00.000+00:002008-01-23T10:58:00.000+00:00work, purpose/faith, the estrangement of one's pol...work, purpose/faith, the estrangement of one's political/social nature, and darwinism. work ought to be an end in its self as a self-affirming activity and not just a means to life but for how many is this the case? the residue of marxism in me still thinks that to be truly human is not primarily atomistic, individualist and material-centred man but rather it is to see oneself in association with others and to participate in the central social and political structures of society but for most this is not possible. the determinism and ultimate hopelessness that is the logical philosophical conclusion of darwinism also has a lot to answer for, well I think so anyway!Marion McCreadyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04657757253873577465noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9016863230532205673.post-30005656791461282372008-01-23T09:37:00.000+00:002008-01-23T09:37:00.000+00:00i think that's because the perspectives are rubbis...i think that's because the perspectives are rubbish for many young people, sure people may not - or some do - go to bed hungry, but what awaits young people: sinking salaries while having to face increased pressure at work and at the same time no or less pensionfunding; universityeducation more expensive; even with some decent eductation lesser possibilities to land a job = a good job, like in the eighties were you needed only one and could make even a living and they couldn't sack you the next day & even the dentist was covered by the healthinsurance; housing more expensive; and the knowledge that things are closing in and not exactly will improve soonish. When living conditions develop in a way that most of the time people are struggling with keeping the head above water there won't be much time left to develop the emotional skills to deal with frustrations or to learn how to look after each other and so on, tv is the easier and also, more understandeable alternative. I think it's a very complex and disturbing problem that can't be easily solved, at least not with meds alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com